"The pain of staying the same weight or more was more than the pain of going to class three times a week."


"It took more than a month to put the weight on, it took more than a month to lose your endurance. It's going to take mroe than a month for this to change. You just have to trust the process and take it one step at a time."


"I think the biggest thing to understand is that we're all going to run into obstacles and that it will probably detract from your goals, but it doesn't have to be permanent.  So, it can be a month, it can be two weeks,  it could be three days. Whatever that obstacle is, just pick yourself up and get back to it."


"I'm out of this world happy."


"Ultimately, when you think about your life, only you are responsible for your happiness. 


Sarah recommends:


Anne's note: when I say "fitness tip," I'm using air quotes that you can't see. 



Thoughts on Sarah Hanks:


This podcast may seem a little off topic, but it really isn’t.  Personally, I’m still processing what Jason said about why people hate themselves, and I reached out to Sarah knowing that she was someone who turned her life around.  She did terrifying things, but she’s never been happier.  And her excuses were strong—they were really great.  She was making money and she was miserable, but she could have kept making money to take care of her son. 


Sarah is also someone who is able to make good use out of Facebook, which she discusses in the podcast.  She mentioned the I love kickboxing private Facebook group, which is very encouraging to anyone who posts anything funny or about health or about motivation or about anything remotely related to kickboxing (or living).  


I heard on the radio once that being able to work with your best friend is worth 10k in salary. That’s about a quarter of my income. Now, I have no idea who did that study or how they came to that figure, but I remember hearing it and giving it a lot of thought. 


Currently, I share an office with my best friend, which is great.  At the job I had before the one I have now, I shared an office with the worst person I have ever known.  Being around this person was like taking poison every day.  I remember, I smoked cigarettes at that time.  Like, honest to god, would smoke during the workday.  I would smoke cigarettes just to get out of the office I shared with this person.  Within a month of starting at my current job, I stopped smoking.  I don’t know when the last time I had a cigarette was, but it’s been years.  My experience is that 10k may be an understatement.  I don’t think I could be paid enough money to work under my previous officemate, it’s hard to say.  So, I guess, even though the point of the podcast, what I’m doing, is reaching out to unlike-minded people, I can recognize a lot of positive that comes from surrounding oneself with like-minded people as well, when those likemined people are supportive of you and your goals.   I hear that this is what people get out of attending protests and demonstrations, they get the feeling of community and comfort in knowing that we’re all hurting.  No one is alone in their hurt. 


I think there are a lot of lessons to take away from Sarah (three of which I discuss at the end of the show) but probably the top one is that happiness is possible.  Self-love is possible.  Turning your life around is possible.  Nothing that’s worth doing is ever easy, but if you ask Sarah, I’m certain she’d tell you it’s worth it.


"I thought, "there has got to be a way to say something positive about the neighborhood--to give it some positive history."


"I was raised in an environment where there are no labels.  There are no stereotypes, unless you create them, and want to cling to them.  I'm not held by a glass ceiling because there isn't one. Period."


"'Can't' is a hard word for me to use, because I always think that you can."


"That to me is un-American.  How in the hell...if I can't afford to get private health care, and I don't want to opt in for public health care, do I get fined? How does that make sense?"


"I think we can all live well. Yeah.  I think it's your mentality, absolutely."


"People who think they can't get anything done without a hand are the first and the worst."


Note: The teacher I referred to actually worked at Como High (in Saint Paul, but not on the East side). He was put on leave after making comments on Facebook about teachers being blamed for their role in the "school-to-prison pipeline" for students.


"Donald Trump does not deserve my attention."


"The guy has got to be hurting like crazy on the inside. Everything I know about humanity? There's no way he's not rotting on the inside. When you walk around with that kind of ego and that kind of fear of the other. . it has to be hell to be that guy. . . . On an individual level, I just want to tell that guy that he's ok. That he belongs here, that he's ok, and that he doesn't need to be afraid of the people."


"I used to think that by being up to date on this and this and this and this I was doing something to influence it, but I wasn't."


"The only place where the United States actually exists is in the minds of people."


"I'm free to fully engage with what's here, right now, instead of constantly putting my attention into portals that talk about all the world's problems; which, there are a lot of problems in the world, but we cannot carry the weight of the world on our shoulders. And just because we know about it. . . there's a big difference between knowing about something and doing anything about it."


"But there really is so much more in life to be happy about. There really is. When we can take away the smoke and mirrors of the news media, and really get deep down into what's bothering us: "why do we feel so distracted? why do we feel so upset?" Those are the questions I think are worth talking about. Not about Donald Trump."


*Note: Acts 9:7 has nothing to do with syncopated beats.


"We have a moral obligation not to despair."


"What the Supreme Court . . . has done . . .  is recognize that. . .  we've had all these years of recognition that this is a decision that should be made between a woman in consultation with her doctor, and that really, nobody has the right to infringe on that."


"Voting for him, to me, becomes an irresponsible act."


"Guess what? Coal's not coming back, and it's not the fault of trading with other countries really, so much as the fact that the mechanizations in factories are making some of those jobs obsolete.  . . . People don't make buggy whips anymore either."


***Note: in the podcast, I stated that Planned Parenthood v. Casey was in 1993, however, it was in 1992.  I also stated that Roe v. Wade was 1972, but the decision was issued in 1973. I also referred to the case as "Casey v. Planned Parenthood" but the case is named "Planned Parenthood v. Casey."



"I'll tell you what I really think about this election: what Obama did in '08, and again in '12, was to become more and more presidential as time went on, and so during that long campaign in '08, for the '08 election, to me he just got better and better at figuring out what it was that this job really required, and what kind of a person he really was, and could the two meet, what the job required and what he had as a person.  Hillary didn't do that so much the first time, but she did this time."


"I will not underestimate what I'm most disappointed about and that wat women . . . 53% of white women voted for him.  Mean girls.  Mean girls."


"What I've always thought about Hillary Clinton is, "Ok, you don't have to love her.  You can think she's greedy and ambitious. But is she competent? Does she basically have the kind of history you want a person to have? How bright is she?" You know, people say, "well, you can have some really smart people who do terrible things," of course that's true, but you gotta start with that.


"Most of the attitudes that...if you want to say..."creation science" is they try to just prove this book . . . they have the end hypothesis, and that hypothesis can't change.  It's not allowed to change.  And that is literally in complete opposition to the whole idea of science.  It epitomizes, I think, a big issue with people's conception with truth." 


"I see the left, in a lot of ways, actually, they're putting the identity of being Muslim so high, that they're actually not even allowing the Muslim community to moderate themselves."


"I find frustration with a lot of the arguments people made with why they voted for Trump. . . I have just as much critcism for both sides, with how they are viewing the future."


"Why is everyone not just, like, shitting their pants? I don't understand."


"As a father, as a new father, this is something that is on my mind a lot."


"What is wrong with somebody who would vote in favor of a bill that would result in the enactment of something called "The Patriot Act?"  That's all you have to do is read that title, and you know there's something wrong somewhere.  You know that person is trying to pull a fast one or put something over on you. . . . It doesn't really matter what's in it. . . . when people start talking that way, you know they're up to something."


"Up until recent years, a person could say, "I'm a republican and I have certain political, social, economic views that I think are the best thing for the country." And that person could be a good person.

In recent years, what has happened to the republican party . . .  has made it impossible for a really good person to say, "yeah, I'm a republican,  I stick with the party that is doing all the things that the republicans have been doing." How do you stay with a party whose leaders announce the first time Obama is elected, 2008, "the thing we are most concerned with, the thing that we're going to do that we're going to devote all our efforts to is making Obama a one-term president."

Saying "we don't care about what happens to the people of this country, we don't care about anything, we're not going to even pretend to fulfill our duties as representatives of the people, we're just going to try to bring this guy down.  That's gonna be our focus." How can you stay with a party that is lead by people like that?"









"Nobody can accuse this person of being a stealth candidate."


"I think, in four years, this president will make an effort to suspend elections."


"There's almost nothing that you can say, "oh, he wouldn't go that far, he wouldn't do that." 


"By voting for the third or forth or fifth party candidate, you do contribute to that result. I think people who do that . . .  . I think those people are fooling themselves if they don't accept the fact that by doing that in this particular election, they contributed to the result that we got."


"In my opinion, the elections resulted in a very dangerous and very disturbed, and I'm a little uncomfortable saying incompetent because I think the competence issue is reflected in the fact that this is a person who is seriously disturbed."


"We've had elections where we've elected somebody who is dishonest, we've elected people who are lazy who don't do anything, we've elected people who can be criticized for all sorts of reasons. . . we've never elected someone who is embarrassing to this extent. Basically what we did is elect a kid that's in the 6th grade, maybe."


"It makes me feel good.  It makes me feel like I'm doing something productive and helpful and beneficial."

"Knowing that an animal that is almost endangered is outside my front door is a beautiful thought to me, and makes me feel hopeful.  Especially with climate change, which is hard to feel hopeful about."

"We have to adjust what we think of as beautiful, because having immaculate lawns, and plants that have been untouched by little nibbling insects is not healthy, it's not helping anybody."


Laine and I continue our discussion on some of the ways that she has worked to reduce her carbon footprint.  We talk about rearing butterflies, growing native plants, carbon sinks, and being a mindful consumer among other things. 


"If everyone in the US gave up eating meat and cheese for one day a week, it would be the equivilant of not driving 9.1 billion miles, or taking 7.6 million cars off the road."-Environmental Working Group

"I went through a lot of time where it gave me a lot of anxiety. . . I definately had to have some moments where I had to pull back from getting as immersed as I could."

A few ways to reduce your carbon footprint:

1. Reduce your meat intake.  

-It takes 1,800- 2,500 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. (Environmental Working Group)

2.  Consume less.  

-be a mindful consumer when shopping

-BYOB means Bring your Own Bag 

-think before you purchase

3. Garden differently: native plants are more hospitable to our ecosystems and serve as carbon sinks (anything that absorbs more carbon than it releases)

4. Avoid microfiber/fleece, or wash less frequently. 

-line dry clothes


-use dishrags instead of paper towels

5. Invest in clothing that lasts and wear it out.  


Laine's website recommendations :
Environmental Working Group- http://www.ewg.org/
I use it to help me pick out safer cosmetics, sunscreens, and cleaning products

List of many native plant suppliers around MN and out of state.

Minneapolis plant store

Outback Nursery in rural Cottage Grove/ Hastings

Seed and plant seller (many native plants can be started right in the ground, in fact many seeds need cold, damp weather to germinate. Just put them in the garden over the snow!

Want to raise/rear monarchs this summer? This is the place to start!

The cumulative research document that Friends of the Mississippi River and the National Park Service produced on the health of the Mississippi in the Twin Cities.


**Anne's note-- I researched freezing your jeans, and the verdict is: don't. 


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